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Posted 5/27/2008 12:10 PM


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Posted 5/27/2008 1:47 PM


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I don't know the weights of the ones you listed, but I have both of those in the exact sizes.

The 60's 15" hi-hats are very thin, and low pitched.  I use them for my jazz gigs.

I have two 20" rides from that era.  Both are medium weight.  One is medium pitch and is a good all-around ride.  The other is very low pitched.  That is the one I got for free with the crack and had pictures on how to fix cracked cymbals.  That one is very low pitched, and sounds more like a crash.  I have a two-rivet cluster installed, and use it on the left side for jazz gigs.

You really can't go wrong buying 50's-60's Zildjians.  They sound better than the new ones, and the resale will hold up if you decide to sell them later on down the road.

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Posted 5/28/2008 4:12 AM


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what makes vintage cymbals especially zildjians better than the new ones? were they made better then or is it just that cymbals sound better after time?

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Posted 5/28/2008 7:24 AM


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$200 for either the ride of hi-hats is a pipe dream.  He either does not know the value, or sees you as a sucker.
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Posted 5/28/2008 7:31 AM


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Ivan P. (5/28/2008)
what makes vintage cymbals especially zildjians better than the new ones? were they made better then or is it just that cymbals sound better after time?

I don't know about ALL vintage cymbals, but the Zildjians from that era are generally much darker sounding than the new ones.  Other than being dirty, or have a previous owner than cleaned them too much, removing some of the weight, cymbals do not change tone over time.

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Posted 5/28/2008 11:58 AM


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i once read somewhere that the bronze has to settle before going to the music stores otherwise they'd break on the first hit.
somewhere else i read that the bronze still kinda settles and changes a bit in atom structure. so the cymbal changes sound after a few years... is this bull$hit? but it sorta makes sense, after all bright cymbals mellow out after time so why shouldn't dark cymbals mellow out too?


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