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Posted 8/27/2008 1:52 PM


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Who benefits from conspiracy books and movies?  Those who write or make the movies profit, the publishers profit, and the movie label profits.  As long as there is a captive conspiracy oriented audience, there is money to be made.  I'm a show-me type person, so I don't believe in Big Foot, or the Loch Ness Monster, yet millions of dollars have been made by those, some sincere, floating the ideas.  I believe the events on the day of 9/11 went down just as the main-stream reported, but the real conspiracy is how Bush twisted those events to gain more power in the aftermath.

As for the Monica scandal; well, it was a scandal.  In the business world, if an officer of a company used his influence to have sex with a teen-aged intern, he would automatically have been fired.  Clinton not only did that, but then lied to a grand jury about the relationship in a second sexual harassment hearing..one he settled out of court.  And, it could be argued that because of the scandal, he became more aggressive internationally during the hearings as a smoke screen.  He didn't just look "silly", he looked corrupt.

I'm sure I am not the only working musician out there who's tuned in to Art Bell on the way home from gigs.  I think it is entertaining in the same way as reading the front pages of the tabloids while waiting in line at the grocery store, but 99% of all the bullsh!t on his show was, and is, bullsh!t.  Still, he, or the new guy, George Noory, have built a huge audience of listeners ready to walk to the alter of conspiracies, so lots of money can be made.  And it is not just the show, but the products.  Do you remember Art pumping that company that would sell you a years supply of food and water in 1999 in anticipation for the end of the earth created by Y2K?  A fortune was made, than in January of 2000, you never heard another word about the issue.

To me, the real US conspiracy is the make-belief two-party system that we have in place.  Until that changes, the issues you addressed in your final paragraph will never change.

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Posted 8/27/2008 2:04 PM


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Well put Dan my man.

What do you think about Bob Barr?  And have you read Ron Paul's latest book "Revolution: A Manifesto"?

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Posted 8/27/2008 4:23 PM


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I consider myself to be a Libertarian, but I really don't see Bob Barr as all the way on board.  He comes across too much like an ultra-conservative.  If he was a real Libertarian, he would be in favor of abolishing all vice laws including laws against drugs, gambling, and prostitution.  To just be vaguely in favor of medical marijuana, or to throw it back to the states does not go far enough for me.  If he were the real deal, he would not only favor the dismissal of all vice laws, but the release 99% of the non-violent offenders from our prison system.  It seems to me that Barr became a Libertarian in the same way Lieberman became an Independent.  It serves them both politically.  For this year, Barr will be to McCain what Nader has been to the previous Dem candidates.  He has a zero chance of winning, so I will not waste my vote on him.  I guess in that way I am more pragmatic than idealistic.

I like Ron Paul more than Barr, but I think he is wrong about Iraq.  It makes less sense to me to argue more about why we are there, rather than what to do next at the point. Although the "why we are there now" argument from him could keep us out of other countries.  Where many of the Libs disagree with me is on the what to do now part of Iraq.  I don't think we can just pull out.  There would be a major civil war, genocide, and eventually, Iran would move in, and have a larger grip on the oil supply.  It sucks that we are there, but leaving early would suck much more in the long run.  Oh, and I have not gotten around to buying his book.

Anyway, neither candidate has much of a political career in store.  I vote all over the map, but this year, I'm leaning towards McCain.  I don't like Obama or his purposefully vague stand on the issues, and inability to man-up rather than throw friends under the bus.  I think Biden, as much as he might be fun to get drunk with, is a blow-hard, and to say the least, racially insensitive.  Unlike Obama, at least McCain is somewhat bipartisan.  However, I may change my mind if he picks Mr. Magic Underwear as his running mate, and vote Barr out of protest.

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Posted 8/27/2008 10:30 PM


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Hey, I never said I bought Ron Paul's book.  I got it from the library!

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Posted 8/27/2008 10:58 PM


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So is it worth reading?  I checked my local library, and both copies are checked out.
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Posted 8/28/2008 12:33 PM


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It's a mere 173 (small, digest-sized) pages yet covers everything that needs fixing in our government.  It's the best pamphlet of its sort since since Thomas Paine.  I read it in two days.

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