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What heads to chose

tnapp — Mon, 05 May 2008 14:52:54 GMT

im leanin towards G2 clear for the toms but im not sure if theyll be right. i want a aaron gillespie sorta sound and they need to be durable

SJC drums

tnapp — Tue, 06 May 2008 04:43:20 GMT

my friend endorses them, pretty awesome. wat do you guys think bout them

Your thoughts on DW Collector's maple snare drum

Carlos Lindado — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:56:10 GMT

Hi fellow drummers.

I'm thinking of getting an used 14x6 DW Collector's all maple snare drum. I just wish to know your opinions on this snare based on your experience. The price is $390, so I also wish to know if it's a good deal. The seller states the snare is in mint condition.

Thanks.

i'm so pissed off!

Ivan P. — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:24:33 GMT

that little bit in the red circle... my worst nightmare... on my new paiste 2002 crash!

what can i do now?

Evans AR

mike ellis — Fri, 09 May 2008 04:31:19 GMT

Anyone know who the contact is? I need to contact someone fairly urgently but I'm getting no replies to my mails.

Can anyone help?

Brand New Ride Cymbal!!!!!

Aktivguy — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:53:51 GMT

Hey Forumn lurkers

Recently I sent my HH RBDR back to the sabian factory (only a half hour away)for a rebuff and relabel. The results are amazing. I originally bought this cymbal back in like 98 or so and repeated cleanings had warn the ink off.

I decided to spend the 20 bones, and have it done . Im glad I did, it looks just as new as the day I brought it home 10 years ago. As far as sound it hasn't changed at all, well not to my ears anyway. The HH logo is different , now just HH not Hand Hammered.

Anyone else have this done by the Sabian factory??

Below are some snapshots for all you to check out

My HH RBDR Newly Buffed and Inked

Close up of new Ink

This is a before shot, notice the warn label, The model ink is totally gone.

You cant really tell from the picture but there were lots of "stick pings" ....alll gone now

I'm looking for a professional microphone set, what would you recommend?

Carlos Lindado — Tue, 06 May 2008 20:11:17 GMT

Hi fellow drummers, I'm looking for a professional microphone set (bd, snare, toms and overheads), the money isn't an issue, so what mics would you recommend? I've seen Phil Rudd using individual mics for his cymbals, but does that offer a considerable advantage over traditional overheads? (I'm not on a budget, however I guess buying one mic per cymbal would be VERY expensive)

Also I'd like to know suggestions concerning a good but small mixer (easy to carry), I want to be able to set my sound exactly as I like it and then send the stereo mix to the main mixer or directly to the PA speakers, I think 10-12 channels would be ok.

Thanks!

remo forum

tnapp — Mon, 05 May 2008 14:42:30 GMT

geez the guys at the remo forum are so mean!! maybe cuz my name was evansrocks, but dont worry i just wanted to see wat they talk about there. really boring stuff. theere real mean guys to most of the time just cuz i like evans haha figures

Performing w/ Loops Live

jparker7810 — Sat, 03 May 2008 20:07:50 GMT

The band I'm playing in is beginning to experiment with adding loops to our live mix. Right now we create the loops in GarageBand and then export them to an iPod and use that to trigger each loop. The problem is that it takes way too much effort to change anything during rehearsal (ie tempo or arrangement). GarageBand works good at changing things, but since you can't have more than one file open at a time it takes way too long to switch between songs for live performances.

Is there a piece of software that does everything we need it to - create loops, arrange loops, and play them in a manner conducive to live performance? It won't be a problem at all to have a computer on stage with us to do everything.

A question about the edge of an HHX Chinese, what would you say?

Carlos Lindado — Fri, 02 May 2008 04:18:42 GMT

Hi fellow drummers, I have a question about an 18" HHX chinese that I got a few days ago, with hopes that those of you who have experience with china type cymbals can provide some answers:

As you know, this chinese is fairly thin, but despite that I'm unsure if it's normal for the edge to bend so easily (by just applying light pressure with the fingers, for example). It feels almost like cardboard. What do you think? Is it normal for HHX chineses to be so flexible? Could it be the cause for a future crack? I don't have any experience with china type cymbals as it is my first. Another thing I noticed is that the edge is not even: there is a portion (about 5 cm long) that is lifted a few milimeters in comparison with the rest of the edge, is this an enough reason to ask for a replacement? I don't know to what extent could this affect the sound, as I don't have another identical chinese to compare with, however I can't say I'm not pleased with the sound.

I'd appreciate your answers and thoughts very much, thanks!

Yeah

Olimpass — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:57:25 GMT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230246837985&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

Modified

Olimpass — Thu, 01 May 2008 01:39:51 GMT

I modified my hat pedal to be right next to my DW 5000 double pedal. I made it out of aluminum and tacked it to the bottom of the hat base. I swivel it over and re-clip it into the modified part. This way I have easy access to the pedal and or can play both at the same time. This particular stand didn't have the capabilities to move over or swivel the legs at all.

It's from my Pearl Export kit I bought back in '81. There's a 10 and 14" tom also with this kit I'm not using. The 14" is hanging with my Slingerland kit for now.

Refurbishing my old snare

tnapp — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:19:10 GMT

i took my old snare (cb) and since i got the new pork pie i figured it would be fun if i took the old snare to tech lab and mess round with it. so i ended up puting 4 2 or 2.5 inch holes and 2 5/8 holes. then i painted the whole thing black and on monday or tuesday me and my art teacher are puttin a white stripe running down the middle. then im gunna paint the hardware either black or white

Just bought an 18" HHX Evolution Crash!

Carlos Lindado — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:55:43 GMT

I got some money and inmediately went to buy some cymbals :D... I think it's a hard habit for all drummers to break, ha ha.

Well, I was looking for an 18" crash to pair with my 16" HH dark, but as there wasn't an 18" of the same model at my local store, I picked up an 18" HHX Evolution... man, this is a beautiful cymbal! It opens up so easily if you tap it lightly with your finger, and has a great attack when hit. I can´t wait to see how it behaves on rehearsal and live situations.

Tomorrow I'll be possibly getting an 18" HHX chinese and a 10" AAX splash (not available at the store today).

I just feel very excited when buying new cymbals, so I hope you don't think I'm bragging about it, I just wanted to share the joy.

Let me know your thoughts with respect to these cymbals, if you own or have played them.

Thanks for reading!

What to buy

tnapp — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:21:31 GMT

I got round 100 bucks and dont know wat to buy first, hears some of my list, tell me wat u think i should buy first

Zilbel

bass reso head

dw stands

tom heads (g2)

sticks

wuhan cymbals

Ivan P. — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:02:13 GMT

wuhan brings out a cymbal set with crash, ride and hats for $150 - $200 which is the c-series. wuhan claims that they are made of b20 bronze...

first of all, how can you make cymbals out of b20 bronze for so cheap? is it really b20?

and, if they made out of b20, why do they still sound so crap? would you be able to make them sound good after having someone hand hammer them?

Bass drum resonant head

tnapp — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:58:04 GMT

The port hole in my bass reso right now got a crack in it from my cat trying to get in and out of my bass drum. I dont want to spend to much money for a reso, once i get it im goin to put two 5 inch port holes in it. i want to know if i will still need to put pillows in my bass drum bcause i really hate how that looks.

RESO-EQ1

BATTER-EMAD

i want this to let me have no pillows but not have to many overtones

Heads on pork pie snare

tnapp — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:03:40 GMT

I just got a Pork Pie Little Squealer 12x5 a few weeks back and now have a evans g2 on it, i like it but i want a head a lttle more crisper, any ideas?

Vintage Downbeat

Olimpass — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:43:41 GMT

I was looking at this item as a possible add on to a kit I have.

I could make it look like a mini Bonham kit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-LUDWIG-16-X-16-BLUE-SPARKLE-CLASSIC-FLOOR-TOM_W0QQitemZ260231607756QQihZ016QQcategoryZ38097QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I think it'd be cool to add on to it. It doesn't have the "baseball bat" style muffler and handle but I could always get that in the future.

fibes heads

BBgretsch — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:44:46 GMT

what remo powerstroke head is the one that fibes put on their bassdrums? my 22" has the two black stripes around it so i know its a powerstroke but is it a ps3, ps4? ? i cant really tell by looking if its a 2 or 1 ply head. i wanna order heads for my 2nd bassdrum to match this one and im not sure what to get

orchestral/marching heads

mrtimekeeper — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:53:39 GMT

so i was looking at a modern drummer
and i saw the specs of this metal drummers set.
it said he used a marching head on his snare.

so i got to wondering if anyone has ever used any marching or orchestral heads
whether it be reso or batter
on their drumset?

My Fingers Are Crossed

ayottedan — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:40:30 GMT

I decided to try something different with today's ebay listings. I started everything at 99 cents, and I am only running the auctions for 5 days. If it works out OK, I have a stack of vintage Champagne Sparkle Ludwigs that I will list the same way.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZgofshngQQhtZ-1

Hi Hat Pedals

Michael P — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:47:49 GMT

Right now I'm looking for a new, 2-legged hi-hat stand. I was looking at this stand, which is the same series as a double-bass pedal I have: http://www.wwbw.com/Product/Product.aspx?sku=23455#custReviews

Besides wanting it to be smooth, I need the pedal to be a bit wider, as I have rather wide feet.

Do you guys have any preferences as far as hi-hat stands go?

new vintage products

Ivan P. — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:43:33 GMT

î've noticed lately that many companies are bringing out new products with vintage sounds, for example, zildjian and their armand series, ludwig with something classics(forgot the name) and remo has brough out their vintage heads. why is vintage suddenly such a new trend?

btw, funny enough the ludwig kit costs like $15000 which is a lot more than a real vintage kit.

1953-56

Olimpass — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:32:33 GMT

Hi,

This is the other set I've been given by a friend. I believe it to be dated 1953 -56 because of the copper Slingerland badges. I believe it to be a black pearl wrap that turned green with age. If you look at the edge, reso side of the bass drum, you can see where it used to be black! Any input?

Look at this pics!

Carlos Lindado — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:56:14 GMT

I just took some pictures of my kit and added a nice "cartoon" effect to them. Tell me what you think!

PD: remember that you have to be logged in to view the attachments.

50's 22" Zildjian Ride. A little ebay spam.

ayottedan — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:58:18 GMT

I've been selling a lot of stuff on ebay, and have not felt the need to spam my link. However, I just picked up a 50's Zildjian 22" Ride that is pretty enough to change this thread from spam to porn.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140219838694&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=004

...if only it was blue.

24 strand Snare Wires

Aktivguy — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:55:45 GMT

Hey everyone , Im looking to buy another set of snare wires for my 5 1/2x14 absolute maple nouveau.

Currently I have the stock 20 strand on it but im contemplating buying a puresound custom 24 strand. what kind of sound can one expect??? increased sensitivity?? Louder etc..etc

Im worried that it may be too much for a smaller depth drum, are my fears unwarranted?

Hope some of you can help me on this one.

Cheers

Drum reviews from ALL! of them these days.

Amrawco — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:33:37 GMT

Wether you read them in Modern Drummer or DRUM! do you ever want to just tazer the guy who gave the latest rave review?. I just played a set of Pearl reference series kits and you gotta believe me, these drums are 100% nothing special in every way. Ive played some drums that Michael Dawson reviewed in Modern Drummer and this guys opinion is thee LAST guy id ever trust. Do you ever just get fed up with all the great reviews youve read about on equiptment youve tested and almost laughed at?.

Birch-Maple-Beech-Bubinga- but its the sizes!

Amrawco — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:05:47 GMT

Ive been playing awhile guys and have been through all the woods and shell designs. Im kinda tired of all the pre-configured kiddy sets ive seen in the last um....10 years! with the hanging floors and set configs. My favorite sizes over all these years of playing has boiled down to, 18x22, 8x12, 10x14, 16x16 and MAYBE an 8x10. Has anyone besides myself tried to impose sound on drum sizes that just ended up not happening?. For awhlie i even thought tht maybe its the birch im not digging, maybe its the bearing edges etc etc. Once the right sizes are in front of me the frustration subsides, YOU?.

What do you think of this kit

CollinCo.Drummer — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:54:53 GMT

I just wanted to get your opinion of this kit:

KIT -Year 2000 DW Collectors Series in Natural Satin Oil w/ chrome hardware

18x22" kick (with Mays/AKG D-112 mic mounted inside)

8x8" (concert tom - top head only)

8x10" mounted tom (with Mays/Sennheiser e604 mounted inside)

9x12" mounted tom (with Mays/Sennheiser e604 mounted inside)

11x14" mounted tom (with Mays/Sennheiser e604 mounted inside)

13x16" mounted tom (with Mays/AKG D-112 mounted inside)

All Mays mics mounted with non-drill kits.

SNARE DRUMS

6.5x14" 10+6 maple Natural Satin Oil

5x12 10+6 Maple Soprano Snare (N.S.O.)

5x14 Aluminum shell snare Knurled aluminum finish - 2007 model

DW 5002 Turbo double pedal

All DW 9000 series hardware / stands

CYMBALS

Primary Hi-hats - 13" Zildjian K Hybrids

Auxillary Hi-Hats - 13" Zildjian Special K/Z hi- hats

10" Zildjian K Splash

12" Zildjian K Custom Dark Splash

14" Zildjian A-CIE Constantinople Crash

16" Zildjian A-CIE Constantinople Crash

18" Zildjian K Custom Dark Crash

20" Zildjian K Constantinople Medium Ride (first series - signed)

20" Zildjian K Custom Dry Ride

2 16" Wuhan Lion Chinas

24" Treeworks Chimes

Other various LP latin percussion blocks and accessories

All this goes in:

an SKB Roto X padded bass drum case

2 Cymbal bags

2 Custom ATA rolling flight cases

Ludwig Classic Maple

CollinCo.Drummer — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:31:16 GMT

Help I'm looking for a picture of the Ludwig's blue shadow finish that they offer on the classic Maple kits. I have scoured the internet and have yet to come across one. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks CK

22" Blue Bell

Olimpass — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:52:07 GMT

Hi,

Anybody ever try one of these?

400 bucks!+

EQ3's

esmoore526 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:16:48 GMT

Has anyone had a problem with EQ3's cracking lately? Have been through 3! in the past year.I'm a blues musican so it's not like I'm giving it a hard time. I just can't figure the problem out.Any ideas would be great.

Small Parts and Pieces

Michael P — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:48:40 GMT

Does anyone know where I can get replacement screws and washers for cymbal stands and snare drums?

These would be things like replacements for snare strainer mounting screws that had been stripped, or cymbal stands that lost a washer and now do not stay in place.

Refitting a Snare Drum

Michael P — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:51:50 GMT

I recently recieved (for free! :D) an old 5x14in. Ludwig Acrolite Snare Drum, which needs an entire snare system, among other things.

- What kind of snare strainer would work well with it? I was thinking about just getting a Ludwig P85, which it would have come with from the factory.

- What are the best type of snare wires/strand for this drum?

- Which is better: nylon cords holding the snare, or finding some new plastic strips to hold it?

- Also, what are the best kind of heads for this drum?

I'm trying to keep the total price for fixing this under $100. Thanks for the help.

Resonant Heads

Michael P — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:30:16 GMT

Right now, I have a Birch 10", 12", and 14" (Fusion) Ludwig kit w/ Evans Clear EC2s and Resonant Glass Heads on the toms.

To get a lower sound, i have to tune them as low as I can w/o the heads rattling.

My only problem right now with the resonant glass heads is the amount of attack I get with them. My kit is already birch, so the sound I get just from contacting the head is rediculous. Even if I just give the floor tom a heavy tap with my hand, it sounds like I'm playing on concrete with my sticks.

Are there any better resonant heads to mellow out the sound, or do I just need to play without them?

GC....WTF??

BBgretsch — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:03:17 GMT

SO i finally found out what head i wanna get on my 26" bassdrum, the superkick II, and i found a new one on ebay for a decent price, but i figured instead of paying the shipping why dont i first call around to the music shops to see about getting one that way.

well 26" heads are a pain to find, and nobody stocked them. the last place i called was Guitar Center. the kid on the phone said all they stock is the Remo Ps3, which is like 40 bucks. I told him i wanted the aquarian and he said he could special order it.

Guess how much they want for a special ordered 26" head???? $85.00 !!!!!!

how the hell do they justify that? I mean a place like that is constantly getting orders shipped in from instrument builders, so why couldnt they just add the bass head to the order list and have it thrown on the truck? I work in the automotive field and if a part is not in stock at the dealer, we will order it and it gets put on the next shipment of parts from the warehouses. we doen mark up the price at all!!

I wonder if anybody actually goes through with these outrageous deals with those people. i mean, you can leave the store, log onto the internet and order something like this for a significantly less price then they can.

Sonor designer kit...(free)

Amrawco — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:01:13 GMT

Psyche!. I couldnt put up Pearl reference kits because noone would read the dam thing. I realize Pearl is a 4 letter word around these hills but has anyone beat on these tubs?. Im playing a Premier Signia kit presently but want a change of scenery. OR, has anyone actually sat down on a Tempus (fiberglass) kit that can comment on them.

A Question Concerning Bass-Dum Heads

applehugger — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:42:50 GMT

Okay, up until now I've only used EMAD and EMAD2 bass-drum heads on my personal kit. I've had problems with the muffling ring holder falling off on the regular EMAD, but I've never cracked or even dented one of those heads. About six months ago however, I got an EMAD2 and within two months, I had cracked the first ply right where the beater hits the head. So I got a more durable patch, and everything was fine for about three months. Then today, a huge 9" crack developed in the first ply, rendering the drumhead almost unplayable.

I am going to order a new drumhead soon, and I would like something more open than the EMAD, so I [i]was[/i] looking at the G2. Now I'm wondering if I should go with a G1 though. I'm afraid I'll crack the first ply of a G2 again, however I'm also afraid that I'll crack through a G1. I've never cracked a singly ply bass-drum head before though, and I played very heavily on a Ambassador 22" for my marching band without any problems. So I was wondering if anyone has thoughts on the durability of a G2 versus a G1 bass-drum head.