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Posted 11/28/2004 10:15 PM
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I have a set of Brady's and yesterday I put a new set of G2's on them. I tune my drums very low and I use a drumdial. The floor tom is set to about 72 on each lug which is as low as I can get it. The problem is that one of the lugs, even with no tension on it, sits at about 75. That's if the two adjacent lugs are at 72. It's very frustrating, I know it's not the shell or the head and I don't think it's the hoop but I guess what I'm wondering is am I tuning too low?? Even if I bring them up to say 80, that particular lug is only barely creating pressure on the hoop. The hoop looks fine too, the drum sounds ok but it's driving me crazy!!!

 

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Posted 11/28/2004 10:49 PM


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Have you considered listening to the drum?
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Posted 11/28/2004 11:26 PM


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Have you tried to rotate the head, and separatly the hoop to see if the high spot moves with either? I doubt it is the shell, Brady is very picky on his finishing but he does use junky hoops.

PS> 2-ply G2's on a Brady, their ought to be a law? Plus sometimes 2-plys fool the DrumDial a tad at low tensions. 72 seems really low, I tune around 78-80 on toms





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Posted 11/28/2004 11:31 PM
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Thanks for the tip Poopy, yes, I have listened to it, it sounds fine. In a way I'm cursing the DD because I doubt I'd be aware of the problem if I didn't have it.

Yeah Limapop, I tried "swivelling" the head, no difference, I'm suspecting it might be the hoop. You don't like the idea of coated G2's on the Brady's??

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Posted 11/29/2004 12:07 AM


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2-plys on a Brady is like tossing a down comforter over your new hi-fi speakers, or playing your collectable 60's Les Paul through a Peavey or Line6 with some digital modeling effects, just wrong! Brady's deserve some nice coated singles like G1, MV, JDeJ, TC, Ambassidor or Uno58.....




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Posted 11/29/2004 8:34 AM


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Some of the best drums on the market are being intentionally manufactured with lugs that cause resistance. The resistance induced by the lug itself can fool a gauge that measures torque of the lug. When you consider the film used is not always exact in thickness from edge to edge, devices that measure tension of the head can be fooled by thicker versus thinner heads. They do offer a better means of repeating a tuning once you know the settings the gauge displays with a head of your choice.

 

What to Expect - Anytime you change brand of head, drum, thickness of head, or the manufacturer changes its manufacturing technique, you should start over by hand and record the settings. So you may end up with a book of several settings


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Posted 11/29/2004 8:40 AM


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DrumDials do NOT measure torque, they measure skin tension, and hense head pitch. The DD measures the deflection of the skin under a constant-force spring gauge. The local skin deflection is inversly proportional to the skin tension (not lug torque).



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