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| Lugs- Great questions! Look good to me as is. I too want to know what it was like working with Jaco. I've heard so many stories about his crazy binges, but the guy some how "brought it" at showtime as one of the greatest bass players ever. I will be sure to post these when the day comes! I was on tour witha band in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area several years ago -like maybe 1985 and we had finished the gig and went out on the beach (They have these grass-hut type mini bars set up all alongh the run of beach associated with a particular hotel) and I was having a drink while watching the lightning storm happening off in the distance...a light breeze was blowing...it was really nice. Anyway, the bartender overheard a conversation we were having about God-only-knows what...and the subject of Weather Report came up and then Jaco got mentioned...probably bass playing got mentioned...and the bartender chimes in and says, "Jaco -the bass player? Yeah, that guy was in here not too long ago, asking for a drink and he was drunk off his *** so no one was serving him and he was starting fights with everybody and yelling that he was the world's greatest bass player. What an asshole! The cops finally came and carted him off..." Ironically, that kind of drinking must have played a role in his demise. Didn't he get into a fight with someone and he fell and cracked his skull or something like that? What was the cause of death? I forget...but I think it was something like that. Look at the long list of names of the truly great players who were clearly addicted to drugs -not just in terms of "recreational" or "binge" usage...and yet, they were THE icons they were...many of them are untouched to this day in terms of creativity. Was that creativity drug-related? enhanced? How many of the world's most creatively-minded/artistic people are/were also drug addicts? I'm curious to collect opinions from all of us in that regard...but somehow, it would be interesting to get Peter Erskine's comments, since he was around some of those very icons. genius + drugs = icon + die young ??

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| | The interesting observation for me is, the ones that come out the otherside and then find MORE enjoyment playing WITHOUT the abusing an intoxicatibg substance - when previously their Perception was that taking stuff was making them play better. I dont doubt that sh*tloads of GREAT musical things have been created while people have been USING -'whatever', the facts speak for themselves. As have the artists admitting taking, gear. *Inhales large Hershey bar*
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| | Let's think of some more names, shall we? Edgar Allen Poe -genius and was an opium smoker and an absinthe drinker Jackson Pollock -genius and alcoholic MOST of the great jazz geniuses had more than a dance or two with substances...the list is too long to name them all. I guess my question is: "Who is totally clear and clean who is also creating something "new" that would be comparable to what those old, drugged-out n'er-do-wells were doing on a regular basis in the old days?" I mean, I realize there are some incredible players around these days...technicians who can "do it all" so-to-speak...but the direction of creativity seems to be more redundant than ever in the jazz world...and it should be the jazz world that's at the forefront of making things change...but I'll tell ya what...I know more about what Britney Spears' cooter looks like than I do about what's going on in various underground music scenes...because that's what makes the news..that's what's important now...that's what's on the television and the radio...and it begins to infiltrate our entire social essence to the point that nobody would frickin' care even if they knew that something new was trying to happen in the world of art/music. We've already been there/done that/seen it all already! What HASN'T been done? Painting with ****, piss and blood? -already been done. Having yourself shot through the arm for a performance piece? -already been done. Destroy the musical instruments...light them on fire...kick them to pieces? -already been done. Play really nice, melodic pieces with great lyrics? -already been done. Play "harmolodics"? -already been done...EVERY conceivable angle has been used so much that there are no more angles -they've all been rubbed smooth. Musicians play on...but not as many people know enough to care. That facet of life is being conditioned out of people and replaced by pablam... ...but I digress...

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| | O, Jaco was beat to death by a bouncer. I wonder if Peter was playing the night Jaco came dressed in mud. If you write for a newspaper, why not just drop P.E. an email, and ask him if he would be willing to do a telephone interview with you. To me that makes more sense than trying to scrap together an article from questions that will most certaintly bounce all over the place. |
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| | It's not a real newspaper. It's a local scene jazz rag that the guy who runs the record label I record on, kind of does on the side. It's a volunteer basis as far as the writing goes -no profit whatsoever...just a small way to allow some of the musicians around here to get some more of the exposure they aren't getting from other local sources. Many of the local guys have written articles. I just wrote a recent article for them and it was kinda fun so I thought this Peter Erskine thing might kind of make an extra-special treat (IF it happens) that only I would know about -since I frequent the world of internet drum discussion boards. Do tell about the bouncer beating Jaco....Do you know any details? Dressed in MUD, you say? 

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| | Anyone still in touch with some of the oldtimers that are no longer hanging here? I think PrankMonkey and PoorbutGood were both big Erskine fans. I'd like to try to let some of the oldtimers know about next week if you can think of anyone that would be interested. I sent Prank an e-mail, but it came back undeliverable. I'm trying to think who else was into Peter's playing... |
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