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Posted 3/28/2008 7:18 PM


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[url=http://www.expelledthemovie.com][/url]

I don't know why the link won't work...but check it out.


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Posted 3/29/2008 12:05 PM


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Looks GOOD! I'll watch it for sure! Thanks!

P.S. He didn't mention ONE word about Jesus!



 

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Posted 3/31/2008 2:56 PM


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ET, I trust you saw the Nova episode on PBS last November entitled Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial.  If you missed it, look around for it on the internet, it might be out there. 

It was a reenactment of the Tammy Kitzmiller, et al. v. Dover Area School District trial that settled, in a Federal court, once and for all that "intelligent design" is religion.  And, in this country, at least for now, we don't tolerate the teaching of religion in our public schools.

It is imperative that you and any potential ID sympathizers understand this legal precendent going into Stein's movie (I won't call it a "documentary" since all it appears to document is Stein's personal feelings about Darwinism.)

O-Lugs is right, Stein doesn't appear to have any truck with Jesus, but knowing his sense of humor, I would at least expect a mention of the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

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Posted 4/1/2008 4:08 PM


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Krispy Kirk (3/31/2008)
ET, I trust you saw the Nova episode on PBS last November entitled Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial. If you missed it, look around for it on the internet, it might be out there.

It was a reenactment of the Tammy Kitzmiller, et al. v. Dover Area School District trial that settled, in a Federal court,once and for all that "intelligent design" is religion. And, in this country, at least for now, we don't tolerate the teaching of religion in our public schools.

It is imperative that you and any potential ID sympathizers understand this legal precendent going into Stein's movie (I won't call it a "documentary" since all it appears to document is Stein's personal feelings about Darwinism.)

O-Lugs is right, Stein doesn't appear to have any truck with Jesus, but knowing his sense of humor, I would at least expect a mention of the Flying Spaghetti Monster!


Never saw the Nova episode. Maybe I'll check for it in the future. PBS turns me off because often they state as fact many things that are only theories or educated guesses.

I don't mind that intelligent design is not taught in public schools. Personally, I don't expect it or want them to teach it. But, the majority of people believe that a God is responsible for the existence of the universe and many scientists do as well. So, when a public school only teaches the humanistic and atheistic view, then they too are teaching Secular Humanism, which is now regarded as a "religious view." If one believes that evolution is fact, even though some scientists admit that it has never been "proven," then there is still an element of "faith" in believing the theory of evolution. Both sides of the ID controversy takes some kind of faith.

Yoga, which is straight from Hinduism, is often practiced in public schools. And they get away with it simply by stating it is only a physical exercise. They teach all sorts of "relaxation techniques" to children in public schools which are borrowed right out of eastern religions, which they state are simply "mental stress management techniques." Humanistic religion is okay in public schools, which shows a bias against those students who are not among the secular humanistic type.


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Posted 4/2/2008 1:39 PM


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Wow, you sure are liberal with your definition of "religion" ET.  I don't recall ever hearing the phrase "humanistic religion" before.  I guess you'd define that as "man's self-worship" then?  Strikes me as being an oxymoron on a par with "scientific creationism", "light beer", "tax incentive", and "military intelligence."

But I tend to agree with you about the yoga thing.  It doesn't really belong in gym class.  Takes too much time away from more important stuff.  Like dodgeball.

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Posted 4/2/2008 3:49 PM


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ET,

You're right. I cannot "believe in" science any more than I can believe in religion. There is no "school of thought" that has the explanation. There is no "right" way...so far. There are only theories.

Yoga in public schools, you say? Damn! I'm old! But, it's all semantics. We used to call it "stretching"...as in "stretching before a big game of dodge ball".

Still, everything comes from somewhere else. Take foods as another example of what's offered in public schools. Look at what we feed our American kiddies. Hot dogs? Pizza? FRENCH fries??? With foods like those, we are going to become corrupt! No Christian kids should be allowed to eat secular food. They should only eat the foods mentioned in the Bible!

I'm going to go and stretch now...



 

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Posted 4/2/2008 5:38 PM


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Krispy Kirk (4/2/2008)
Wow, you sure are liberal with your definition of "religion" ET. I don't recall ever hearing the phrase "humanistic religion" before. I guess you'd define that as "man's self-worship" then? Strikes me as being an oxymoron on a par with "scientific creationism", "light beer", "tax incentive",and "military intelligence."

But I tend to agree with you about the yoga thing. It doesn't really belong in gym class. Takes too much time away from more important stuff. Like dodgeball.


"Man's self-worship" is probably an accurate way of stating it. "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law," which you probably recognize from Aleister Crowley/The Beast 666 and other like minded people and occult groups...is what basically is being taught to children nowadays. The Man is God belief is being taught in public schools. These humanistic religious beliefs are purposely being placed on students today and if anyone doubts that, read Marylin Ferguson's New Age book "The Aquarian Conspiracy: Personal and Social Transformation in Our Time." Though she used the word "Conspiracy," she states on page 19 of her book that it does not reflect something negative. But that a conspiracy can be a "conspiracy of love." She uses the terms humanism and humanistic at times to express her own views, while at the same time expressing a strong and pro "spiritual" belief. She devotes a whole chapter on public schools and how they (the New Agers/Aquarian Conspirators) already have put many of their own "Aquarian" educational methods into public schools. This book was originally written in 1980 and the New Age/occult/pagan beliefs thrive so much more now in public schools than before. Many people don't even realize that many of the practices that they are being taught in school originate from pagan and eastern religious thought.


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Posted 4/2/2008 5:55 PM


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O-Lugs (4/2/2008)
ET,

Yoga in public schools, you say? Damn! I'm old! But, it's all semantics. We used to call it "stretching"...as in "stretching before a big game of dodge ball".......................

I'm going to go and stretch now...


My wife once practiced yoga and chanted "OM" and did all sorts of Hindu/Buddhist "mental exercises" and never knew that it was from those particular religions. She thought it was just based on "scientific" mental and physical exercises. Well, Yoga in all its various forms is based on Hindu religious beliefs in chakras and the Kundalini "serpent fire" that allegedly exists along the spine and up to the "Third Eye." Yoga means "Union" and when practiced correctly, it will lead to personal "illumination." Yet, many Christians don't seem to know or care that they are doing these pagan activities.


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