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I don't hate Pagans since I would have to have hated myself and much of my family who practiced a lot of it in the past.
As to those websites, I've been quite aware for a while now of people who take the view that Christianity is a rip off of Paganism. I can understand why they believe this because I admit there are many parallels and similar teachings. BUT! If you look at the timelines in Scripture though, you will find that the bible admits that pagan religions DID exist before Judaism/Christianity. Satan started "religion" first! I know you won't care for this opinion, but, Satan knew God and God's plan before mankind was ever created. Satan wanted to be worshipped right fromt the start and it was he who paralled what God was going to do in his own Babylonian/Luciferian/Man-centered religion. Which is where all this New Age/Occult/Gnostic stuff is really from. Genesis 6 speaks of giants and/or Nephilim who were "men of renown and heroes of old" when angels (sons of God) mated with women. These were the "demi-gods." This is where we got many of the ancient legends and pagan religions from. They actually have an element of truth. This was a time well before Abraham (the first "Jew"), Moses and of course, Christ.
Unfortunately, paganism creeps in a lot into pure Christianity and many people don't realize the difference.If Christianity was truly pagan, as you suggest, then Pagans would love it too. Since there are many gods in Paganism, why are they upset with Christianity? Because in Christianity/Judaism, there is one God who created everything and only He is worthy to be worshipped while all other gods are not gods at all. That's a big difference. Paganism does not pre-date God Himself.
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| Krispy...I also want to mention that there is a lot that I agree with in some of those websites you posted. Christianity did incorporate a lot of pagan customs, symbols and rituals. Which I believe is totally wrong for Christianity to do. That is a main reason why I wouldn't attend most so-called Christian churches today and why I reject a large chunk of what is taught by many "Christian" leaders and teachers.
The Catholic Church has a Pagan Obelisk straight from Egypt in St. Peter's Square at the Vatican. Isn't this a bit odd for a "Christian church?" I consider most Priests and many Pastors of protestant denominations to be Pagan. Remember the comedy with Tom Hanks and Dan Akroyd "Dragnet?" The "Christian Moral Majority" type priest in the movie was actually a member of the secret group called the "Pagans!" Though this is a fiction movie, obviously, I think it was actually quite accurate!
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| God created everything
Everything is corrupt
Therefore, God is corrupt
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| | I just wanted to say, in my opinion there isn't such a thing as an eastern religion. Taoism, Budism, Shintoism, ect. ect., they're more like philosphys, as they're not revoving around a god, just ideas, thoughts. |
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| Unrealityshow (4/5/2008)
I just wanted to say, in my opinion there isn't such a thing as an eastern religion. Taoism, Budism, Shintoism, ect. ect., they're more like philosphys, as they're not revoving around a god, just ideas, thoughts.
In one sense, I agree with you. But, if you look into a lot of various philosophies, they contain within them religious applications whether they recognize a God or not. There are atheistic groups with like-minded philosophies who practice religious type rituals and ceremony, not because they believe in God, but because they believe there is a certain powerful effect that takes place when a person is subjected to a ritual or "initiation." This is "religion" whether they recognize a deity or not.
Scripture says in Colossians 2:8
"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ."
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| I have a question for you Krispy Kirk. On one of those websites you posted (northernway.org), it states....
What does "contacted" mean?
There are Guardians and Guides -- real entities behind symbols like the Rose and the Cross, the Dove and the Eagle, the East, Water, etc. They communicate with (and through) students of the Occult. They have done so down through the ages. If you are open-minded, yet discreet, and are actively seeking the divine---it will come to you and manifest through you. It may even use you as a tool or a mouthpiece.
You posted those websites to prove the point that Christianity is Pagan. What about statements such as the one I just quoted? What do you think of that statement? Do you accept the above statement? If the above quote is not entirely accurate or believable, do you think that all the "facts" they have about Christianity is 100% believable?
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| | OK, in all fairness, I didn't read every single page of every single one of those sites I referenced. Apparently ET, you did! The quote you're asking about is silly. There's no other word for it. Since my point was to show equivalency between the primal animism of our species and your highly developed and allegedly superior monotheism - and not to side with any belief, I will refrain from defending anything on those sites. But I suppose if you're superstitious enough, the statement comes across as advocating demonism. Am I right? Maybe next I'll explain how devil worship and god worship are the same thing...
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