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Posted 4/28/2008 9:24 AM


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that little bit in the red circle... my worst nightmare... on my new paiste 2002 crash!

what can i do now?

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Posted 4/28/2008 9:36 AM


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If it is not under warranty, I can tell you how to fix it.

IMO. Paiste cymbals seem to be more brittle than Zildjian, and there seems to be a disproportionate number of cracked Paistes floating around.

That brings up the question, how did you crack it?  If you broke it while playing, I'll bet ten bucks that your felts are too tight, and that your crash cymbals do not swing freely enough.  If your crash cymbals do not float freely, with a large range of motion, they will have to absorb the full impact from the strike of your stick.

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Posted 4/28/2008 10:08 AM


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what dan said.

five black felts jammed in between the wingnut and the cymbal may look totally badass but it will get expensive in the long run.  what did that crash set you back?  $200?

i recommend using no more than two felts: one up one down.  even better is just one underneath and no wingnut at all...

FREE THE CYMBALS!!!

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Posted 4/28/2008 10:48 AM


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Wow,

 How are you crashing your cymbals? One time I've seen a guy who had the cymbals mounted up high and parrallel so he could hit the edge of the cymbal and not use the playing surface! You've just got a bad cymbal or you're hitting them way too hard. Or like yotte said. Maybe you could return it if there's a warranty. These are the chances you take playing screamo music!

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Posted 4/28/2008 11:09 AM


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that's the thing, i have no clue how i cracked it!

my technique is good, the cymbal swings freely, and i've never before cracked a cymbal! it's really a mystery to me! i suspect that the guy i bought it from damaged it a bit during transportation or storage or something because he didn't play it much(only about 3 times) and there weren't any stick marks on it when i got it. so there's no way that i destroyed pretty much a new crash in hardly 2 weeks of light playing(i was away for 5 weeks shortly after buying it). i really don't hit hard... so why did it brake?

so what's the solution? tell me dan! i've got someone in my area who fixes cracked cymbals but cutting out the crack - so downsizing my cymbal. is that the only way?

btw dan, you owe me ten bucks! and i only use two felts...

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Posted 4/28/2008 11:14 AM


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btw, the dude who downsizes the cymbals charges about $30, good price?

and he claims he can polish the cymbal so that it look brand new again for about $8...

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Post #35619
Posted 4/28/2008 11:22 AM


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 I have a Zildjian that developed a crack after my stepfather, a metalurgist, was messing around with my cymbal on the GRILL! I don't know why he did that. To see if he could alter it's sound or what? But it cracked right at the stamp. I drilled a small hole at each end of the crack. It cracked like a "Y" shape so I had to drill 3 small holes. This worked for many years now. Over 18 years, till my son cracked it somehow probably smackin' the 14" crash which caused it to spread beyond the drilled holes. You can see it in my personal photo. The one above the cowbell, the GRILL marks! You may have to drill a small hole at the end of the crack to keep it from spreading. Or make the person replace it who broke it while you were away for 5 weeks!!!

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Posted 4/28/2008 11:52 AM


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The guy who cuts down cymbals is an idiot.  If you cut down any cymbal, it will sound like a mini-gong.

About the only cracks that can be fixed permanently are cracks like the one you have, that is, a crack from the edge in, and not with the grain.

In your area, find someone who has a plasma torch.  Have the guy use a ring for the template, and cut a round, even cut around the crack.  Make sure you go past the crack by a 1/2 inch or so.  Once the crack is cut out, have the guy grind down the cut so it is smooth.  Finally, grind down the points at each side where the cut goes in.  The idea is to have no jagged edges, and no sharp angels.  Everything has to be smooth and round.

I will try to post a picture of the 20" crash that I got for free, and repaired.

Post #35621
Posted 4/28/2008 12:04 PM


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