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| Just talk about your favorite cymbal stack.
Mine is 16" HH dark crash on top of 18" HHX chinese (inverted), very trashy, and when mounted on a hi-hat stand serves as an unusual ride when open.
My other drumset is a Steinway. |
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| | I love to stack cymbals, my band mates hate me for it. My favorite combo right now has become a broken 8 inch splash on top of a broken 16 inch istanbul crash on top of a 18 inch broken paiste crash. I'll be the first one who will say it sounds a bit trashy. |
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| isn't that a bit of an overkill having 3 cymbals?
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| Do you remember those Pearl CX-300 hi-hats. I think they are made of brass. I have one I hammered by myself, sounds like a mini-china, very trashy, but it's not worth played alone, it sounds better stacked, I currently put it inside my bottom hi-hat cymbal (14" AA regular).
My other drumset is a Steinway. |
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| | That is interesting, I have never even considered putting in a second bottom hat. I'll give it a try and report back. I have tried stacking cymbals, and I don't like the sound at all. Then again, I never play the type of music that calls for that garbage can, or trashy sound. About as trashy as I ever get is with my 18" Avedis Swish with rivets. I do stack cymbals all of the time, but not they way you are describing. Mine is the way where you put a smaller cymbal upside over a larger cymbal with a washer in between. Lately, on my jazz gigs, I have been using a vintage 20" Zildjian ride (sounds like a crash), with two rivets on the left side, a 20" Zildjian med. ride as the main, and a 22" Zildjian ride with a 3-rivet cluster over the floor tom. I stack a 13" Ludwig Paiste over the left ride, and a 16" thin Zildjian Cie over the 22. I'm playing a gig this Saturday where I'll be using that set up, so I will try to remember to bring a camera, and post a pic. The School Fest will be also making its debut. |
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| aren't you supposed to put some thin felt in between the cymbals?
and another q... can stacking damage your cymbals somehow by metal on metal rubbing?
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| | Yeah, the rubbing takes its toll, hence the broken cymbals. And, yeah, three is a bit over kill, but it does add a bit of something. |
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| Hey ayottedan, you won't regret putting a smaller cymbal inside the botton hi-hat, just try and tell us!
I also stack cymbals in the way you describe, so I can use fewer stands:

The splash (with holes for optional rivets) is separated from the china by a felt.
BTW, I don't think the rubbing would damage stacked cymbals, consider hi-hats... they clash at the edge, the thinnest part.
My other drumset is a Steinway. |
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| | It won't damage them as far a cracking, but if played stacked the way first described here for a long period, you will get a two-toned lower cymbal. But who cares, they are your cymbals, it's not like you are going to loose your rental deposit. You are more likely to damage a cymbal stacked the way I do because the upper crash or splash cymbal is mounted upside down, and it not allowed to swing as freely as it would on its own stand. If you really smack the top cymbal mounted this way, you could crack it. |
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